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    Default WANTED: Chief Sealed Beam #4030 for 1941-1942 and 1948-1953 Chief motorcycle

    I need a sealed beam original part #4030 for a Chief headlight. Does anyone in this forum know of anyone with this part for sale?

    Len Dowe tried to help, though he didn't have the matching number.

    Thanks.
    -JTR

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    Like this?

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-GE-...-/113228632102

    Assuming you don't want the replacements that have 3 aiming tits?
    Jason Z
    AMCA #21594
    Near Pittsburgh PA (Farm Country)
    Allegheny Mountain Chapter http://amcaamc.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTR249 View Post
    I need a sealed beam original part #4030 for a Chief headlight. Does anyone in this forum know of anyone with this part for sale?

    Len Dowe tried to help, though he didn't have the matching number.

    Thanks.
    -JTR
    Can you elaborate on the sealed beam.
    I have a 51 chief,original lamp,not sure about bulb,I havent had it apart in long time.
    My bulb says on the outside

    M-30
    Top


    Sealed Beam
    T-S
    Made in USA

    Thanks
    Tom

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    That looks perfect. How is this one new? Is it NOS?

    -JR

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    I think if you have the sealed beam out of the shell, the back of the reflector portion has the original number stamped to an area close to the center just like modern ones.
    I wanted an original, period correct part and not reproduction, that's all. Nothing wrong with modern parts, though I just wanted to get as close as possible to the original. When I started looking for this particular part, it was really easy to find the modern reproduction ones, but the originals are most likely still on running bikes.

    Part of the problem is actually just as you ask. elaborating on what one looks like. I've only seen them at Kiwi Indian and in Hatfield, though not close enough to get a good understanding of what to look for close up. Several companies made them, though GE made the ones they placed on Indian motorcycles. The photo I had from a forensic law enforcement source was not very clear because the image was a photocopy.

    I don't know about the prongs, or "tits," because I have only seen the modern one, which is what I have in the lamp right now.

    Thanks for your help.

    -JR

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    I just bought the one posted with a link by Jason Z. Thank you guys for your help and information.

    -JR

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTR249 View Post
    I think if you have the sealed beam out of the shell, the back of the reflector portion has the original number stamped to an area close to the center just like modern ones.
    I wanted an original, period correct part and not reproduction, that's all. Nothing wrong with modern parts, though I just wanted to get as close as possible to the original. When I started looking for this particular part, it was really easy to find the modern reproduction ones, but the originals are most likely still on running bikes.

    Part of the problem is actually just as you ask. elaborating on what one looks like. I've only seen them at Kiwi Indian and in Hatfield, though not close enough to get a good understanding of what to look for close up. Several companies made them, though GE made the ones they placed on Indian motorcycles. The photo I had from a forensic law enforcement source was not very clear because the image was a photocopy.

    I don't know about the prongs, or "tits," because I have only seen the modern one, which is what I have in the lamp right now.

    Thanks for your help.

    -JR
    I looked on my shelf and found another T-S which is apparently Tungsol and a Ge That has 171 and Top at the top and Ge sealed beam made in USA on bottom.The Ge stamp on the inside is to blurred to read.
    Thanks
    Tom

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    Howdy chaps,

    Here is an NOS 4030, I unwittingly removed the easiest form of identification from it moments ago with Windex. Lightly stenciled in black in the backside of the reflector is General Electric 4030 with the number in the middle in 3 rows. Obviously very fragile and likely missing on an example to be found at a swap meet unless in the original box like mine was. That number is nowhere else so.....

    ID’g one. First off, looking straight at the lens of one there is 3 inch or so focal reflector in the middle obvious from feet away.

    At the top
    428
    TOP

    At the bottom,

    Sealed Beam
    GE
    MADE IN USA

    On the right side the third row of flutes down.

    M
    1
    3
    6

    Those are most suited to AMCA judging only, the low beam is very feeble while pulling nearly 4 amps. I can only guess that being intended for M/C use accompanied by lots of vibration that the filament is more robust than the car equivalent. Rarity aside, I’d run the latter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PRG View Post
    Howdy chaps,

    Here is an NOS 4030, I unwittingly removed the easiest form of identification from it moments ago with Windex. Lightly stenciled in black in the backside of the reflector is General Electric 4030 with the number in the middle in 3 rows. Obviously very fragile and likely missing on an example to be found at a swap meet unless in the original box like mine was. That number is nowhere else so.....

    ID’g one. First off, looking straight at the lens of one there is 3 inch or so focal reflector in the middle obvious from feet away.

    At the top
    428
    TOP

    At the bottom,

    Sealed Beam
    GE
    MADE IN USA

    On the right side the third row of flutes down.

    M
    1
    3
    6

    Those are most suited to AMCA judging only, the low beam is very feeble while pulling nearly 4 amps. I can only guess that being intended for M/C use accompanied by lots of vibration that the filament is more robust than the car equivalent. Rarity aside, I’d run the latter.

    Looking at my GE bulb again I can see the blue stamp 4030.The front has 171 with Top below it,K43 very small on the right and Sealed Beam Ge made in USA on the bottom.
    Maybe the 171 and k43 are date codes.
    Tom
    Last edited by tfburke3; 09-27-2019 at 06:58 PM.

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    I'm not certain about the numbers, though I will have it Monday evening. I'll post a photo when I get the lamp. I would think the lens numbers are series for years or production run numbers.
    thank you for posting the photo. That is a very good reference shot.
    Do you run your Chief on a 6 volt or twelve volt system?

    -JR

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