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    Can anyone tell me how to set the oil pump pressure for a newly rebuilt 440 ?
    Thanks in advance.

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    Has the engine been fully assembled? Regulating the pump while in the engine is difficult, usually the pump is regulated out of the case using a variable speed drill. Make sure the spill valve on the pump is clean and operating correctly, look for pits in the seat or check ball. Make sure the spring is not broken or missing! I adjust the spill between 40 & 45 lbs at a high fast idle speed for my babbitted engine. Check with your builder and follow his directions on inserted engines. Use a modern "instrument" to regulate the spill pressure, compare to the oil gauge you are going to run on the bike. In this way you can determine the accuracy of your running gauge.
    Last edited by L Burke; 10-01-2018 at 01:58 AM.

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    Hi L,
    Thanks for your interest and reply. No, I have not assembled the upper and lower casings yet. The motor came back from the engineers with a tag on the oil pump, reading " Spring seems to long and pump needs adjusting " So I can check the spring length against a new one, but I have no idea about the adjustment ?
    Ivor.

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    image.jpgWell, that is good news! Once you have setup the pump, cleaned, seat checked, paper shims in place, use as few as possible, gears must spin freely at low and high Rpms. Mount the pump on the wall in your shop. Attach a rubber hose to the intake side and drop into a bucket of oil, same weight that you will be running. Attach another section of hose on the discharge side and drop the end in the same bucket of oil. The smaller line that runs to the gauge block on the side of the engine is your discharge line. Attach your "pressure instrument" with a "T" here, chuck the pump drive in your drill and come to a fast idle speed, a hand held machinist rpm gauge will come in handy here. Top speed of your drill is about 1800 rpm which is about max rpm of your 4. Run the check valve screw in or out setting tension on the check ball until desired pressure is met, tighten the locking jam nut and install pump back in your bottome case. Notice in the photo, upper left front corner of the bottome case rim a circle indention, make sure you install the fiber washer gasket or O ring. If this is not installed you will force oil back into the sumo and loose oil pressure no matter how well your pump is setup.
    Last edited by L Burke; 10-01-2018 at 02:21 AM.

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    Wow !! Thank you so much L,
    I know different people run different oil but what would you run ? And what pressure would you set it at ? I'm guessing that I should find an 'O' ring that sits slightly proud of the cork gasket that fits between the casings.
    Ivor.

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    Oil, there is a subject that will stir emotions.....run what Dad ran......or this is the best......it has been my experience to run an oil with a high content of metals, especially in old machines, and straight weight. This is my opinion........there are a lot of those out there, so run with what you are comfortable with. I like Penn products, Penn1....they have formulations for old vehicles. I run 50wt in my 4's. Valvoline Racing 50wt. I also have had good success with. When you setup your engine use a good grade of assembly lube. Pump your galley's full of oil before starting. After the crank and flywheel are properly bedded, break in using a 1/2 drill. My oil pump I set the spill at 40-45#......ask your engine builder what he recommends.

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    Not sure I would double stack gasket at this location. This answer is a response to earlier statement concerning o ring cork gasket.

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    Hi L,
    With the oil pump drive gear on, the same way as your showing it, I found the gear protrudes in-front of the crankshaft and other gears, but if I turn it the other way, it lines up with them. Do you know the correct way around ? The oil pump shaft has a key but is not tapered.
    Thank you, Ivor.

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    Not sure I am following you. The photo shows how the pump should be set up. Is your gear a replacement gear? There should be little if any internal sloop in the pump. Jerry Greer's Engineering has an excellent parts illustration of your pump.
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