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Thread: Autonomous cars versus old motorcycles

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    tfburke, ditto. Tom Cotten, grandfather yes. Eric, you must be telepathic -- i caught myself saying the same thing re population.
    Perhaps someday you all will wish you lived in South Dakota!

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    The solution to population control is to colonize other planets. In the meantime we can move to South Dakota, limit the damage we do to the environment and make better use of our existing roads. I highly doubt an outright ban on existing ICE vehicles would ever pass (short of something catastrophic happening like the atmosphere changing dramatically and rapidly) however a phasing out of new ICE vehicle sales will likely happen. If the market doesn't do it to itself, it will likely eventually be legislated. Most manufacturers are already committing to that direction anyway. And we should support it for new vehicles as the technology/range is becoming better. There's nothing exciting or special about buying a new gasoline commuter car versus an electric commuter car! Much like there is nothing special about getting your electricity from a coal plant versus a windmill. There is something exciting about clean air and water though and shorter commute times! Now just because you stop producing new ICE vehicles and make new vehicles autonomous doesn't mean you ban existing vehicles. And there is plenty of precedent there already too just look at smog laws and seat belt laws. Both were phased in and old vehicles were grandfathered in as Cotten points to. If there wasn't there would be a lot of posts about how to get that total loss oil flathead with it's toilet paper roll looking carburetor and bird deflector to pass a 2017 smog test! Speaking of smog I was recently taking apart a 1997 Harley and the smog controls were kind of an interesting system... ugly and I doubt they made much of an impact but interesting to see how they worked.

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    One word, Pandemic. Coming soon to a world near yours....the sooner the better.
    Robbie Knight Amca #2736

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    Pandemics are autonomous

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    Here’s a link to General Motors investor day slide presentation all about Autonomous Vehicles. Browse through to see how $erious they are

    https://www.gm.com/content/dam/gm/ev...set-11-30-2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubone View Post
    One word, Pandemic. Coming soon to a world near yours....the sooner the better.
    It may have already started Robbie.

    https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...-rise-in-cases

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Cooke View Post
    It may have already started Robbie.

    https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...-rise-in-cases
    While there is a bubonic plague problem in Madagascar at present it should be realized that the plague organism is bacterial and is therefore treatable with antibiotics.
    Plague was introduced to Australia (Peter Cooke's home) and the United States around the year 1900. It was carried by infected black rats on ships from China. By 1925 plague had been eradicated in Australia and has not appeared there since. In the USA, the last large outbreak was in the Los Angeles area in 1925. Since then a few cases occur each year in western USA, New Mexico being the most recent area with fewer than 10 cases each year with only a few deaths in cases where treatment was delayed.

    The idea of a plague "pandemic" runs counter to the present scientific evidence.
    AFJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubone View Post
    One word, Pandemic. Coming soon to a world near yours....the sooner the better.
    Now there's a real Holiday sentiment...

    Glad I don't share "Robbie the Rag"'s world!

    Meanwhile, back to vintage motorcycling: Should we support an able organization to lobby for our interests, or just wank about it?

    ....Cotten
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. Cotten View Post
    Meanwhile, back to vintage motorcycling: Should we support an able organization to lobby for our interests, or just wank about it?

    ....Cotten
    Since the AMCA is currently preparing to have a discussion of this issue at their next National board meeting, it would seem logical for AMCA members to put their views as to what could and should be done to protect Antique Motorcycle Club member's rights to use their "non-autonomous" old motorcycles on the nation's public roads before that meeting.
    AFJ

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    I really appreciate the thoughtful articles and your objective approach. I doubt we would change the direction of the autonomous vehicle trend but we can be aware and continue to make a case for driver responsibility.

    Mike Love

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