Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 17

Thread: Steering Head Lock

  1. #1
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Alps of America (CO)
    Posts
    144

    Default Steering Head Lock

    Hi, All ... got a locksmith coming over shortly to see about a new key for the steering head lock on the 65 FL, and thought I'd try to kill two birds with one stone...

    On the 65 FLH I built a few years back, I installed a B and S steering head lock I had gotten from Bills. Tested it several times before and after putting the front end on, but after a few uses, the key now rotates 360 in either direction with no effect on the lock (fortunately, it's in the unlocked position). From reading other threads, it sounds like I could just pull the lock (assuming we can get the roll pin out) and either drop in another lock, or reposition the current one so it better engages the plunger. Can't remember if I have the little spring in there behind the plunger or not.

    I'm guessing either the lock broke, or it has backed out just enough to not engage the plunger. Am I reading correctly that I can replace the lock without taking the front end off, snagging the plunger out of there, etc?

    I know that lock provides next to no "security", but I'm OCD enough to like to keep everything in working order.
    Ride it like you can fix it!

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    539

    Default

    Yes, the lock cylinder is independent of the plunger pin. If you can remove the cylinder retaining pin, the lock cylinder itself can be removed.
    However..... the retaining pin is actually a roll pin, hollow not solid. It's difficult to remove. I've seen very limited success with a Tig welder welding a piece of filler rod to it as a purchase point for gripping, twisting, and removing. I did say "very limited success". After several failed attempts, the process usually reverts to melting the old lock out, focusing on the area of the roll pin, then pushing the pin back out from the inside.
    Either way involves heat and ruined paint. The area of ruined paint is usually contained within the triangle area of the steering head casting that contains the lock. Touchup paint is doable.

    It does sound like the lock was not inserted deep enough to fully and properly engage the plunger pin. You can do all this work without removing the front end, but let me ask you this- how will you know the replacement lock is properly engaged providing full function?
    Usually shortcuts are for the lazy, and seldom serve success.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Posts
    284

    Default

    I think they all turn 360 with the key inserted. Turn the front end to the left and turn the lock 180 and it should be locked, remove the key.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Alps of America (CO)
    Posts
    144

    Default

    If only it were that easy, Upsrod.

    Thanks, Rooster. As luck would have it, I left about a sixteenth of the roll pin sticking up when I installed, so maybe my tiny needle nose or something the locksmith has will be able to wiggle it out a tad. If I can then figure out where on the lock body to cut a tiny detente for the roll pin, maybe I can get it working like it did when I first installed it. Not a function issue, anyway, since the thing rarely leaves my sight unless it's locked in the garage.
    Ride it like you can fix it!

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Posts
    284

    Default

    If you didn't drill a hole in the lock body for the pin to go into, the lock has probably backed out and not moving the pin into the neck hole.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Central Illinois, USA
    Posts
    3,305

    Default

    My approach Folks,..

    Was to tap the hole for a set screw that would hold the core firmly, and so it would be removeable if ever necessary.
    Then I capped over the screw with some autobody filler, and hid it with a dab of paint.

    ....Cotten
    Last edited by T. Cotten; 10-20-2017 at 12:45 PM.
    AMCA #776
    Dumpster Diver's Motto: Seek,... and Ye Shall Find!

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    The First State
    Posts
    39

    Default

    Great tip Cotten!

    I'm still trying to find a local locksmith who will cut a replacement key for my'65!
    Craig (Delaware)
    AMCA Member #1011

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Pa
    Posts
    27

    Default

    I think that guy just called you lazy.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Central Illinois, USA
    Posts
    3,305

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by dustydog View Post
    I think that guy just called you lazy.
    My wife agrees, if you're talking to me!

    Back to topic:
    The spring behind the plunger seems like cocking a gun and putting it to your head, just hoping the core never works outward like JSB55's while your doing a left turn.

    It works just fine without it.

    ...Cotten
    PS: I believe earlier models (including Indians) used a screw, probably self-tapping, rather than a roll pin. Usually a nub where the head was chiseled off indicated it so you could drill it out with a left-hand bit.
    Roll-pins are a real pain, because they were hardened.
    Last edited by T. Cotten; 10-20-2017 at 03:47 PM.
    AMCA #776
    Dumpster Diver's Motto: Seek,... and Ye Shall Find!

  10. #10
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Alps of America (CO)
    Posts
    144

    Default

    Somebody called me lazy??? I prefer the term "Personal Energy Conservationist"...

    Saw the post about your method elsewhere on the forum, Cotten, and lo and behold, the smallest tap I have is ... *drumroll* ... 4-40, and a 10 pack of 4-40 x 3/16 set screws goes for $5.99 on Amazon. And by wiggling the lock with an inserted key while grasping a smidge of the exposed roll pin, I managed to pull the lock, complete with a nice scratch down the side showing me where I need a little indentation for either the roll pin or a set screw to engage.

    Progress ...
    Ride it like you can fix it!

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •