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    Default Member from Germany - interested in Emblem, Schebler "H", and other.

    Hi everybody.
    My name is Manfred living here close to Munich.
    I've restored an Excelsior twin 1912, Neracar, HD 1923 w. sidecar.
    My special interest goes to early Schebler carbs which I restore since some time.

    My current project is an Emblem (approx. 1912, single in a twin Frame).

    In particular I'm looking for information (Salesbrochures, Manuals, detailed fotographs) for the bike as well as the Heitger carb.

    Regards
    Manfred

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    Greetings and welcome, Manfred!

    How are you measuring the radiused washers on the Schebler HX when you cut them?

    They give me fits.

    ....Cotten
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    Wow! Very nice bikes! Good luck with your collecting.

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    Hello Cotton , thank you for your reply.

    When I started with restoring I cutted the friction disc to the ventory diameter.
    Now after some experiments I'm not using these washers anymore.
    The wear at the top of the throttle disc is next to nothing.
    as I realised on the carb of my Excelsior after some 2000 mls.

    Manfred
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    Welcome, Manfred. Very nice motorcycles. In regards to the Heitger carburetor, I have the glass bowl version that I'll use on my Flying Merkel. I've looked for literature on the Heitger for many years and have found nothing at all. I believe the Heitger was rare in it's day. In comparing it to a similar vintage Schebler, the Heitger is overly, and unnecessarily complex. The Heitger was obviously a high quality carburetor, and very well made, but it didn't need to be, and I'm sure the added costs of producing them got passed on to the consumer. Of course, 90% of the motorcycles in those days were equipped with Scheblers and everyone knew how to tune them, and spare parts were cheap, and plentiful. That's why Indian, and Harley-Davidson stopped making their own carbs, and went to Schebler.

    Oh yeah; I make the Shebler radiused washer out of PEEK. And Tom, I kind of half-assed it and just made it like a 'belleville' washer so it would offer some resistance on the throttle shaft.
    Eric Smith
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    Manfred and Eric!

    I don't think my people would let me get away with that.
    If I can't do it right, I won't do it at all.

    ....Cotten
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    PS: Manfred!

    When you did bother to cut the radiused friction washer, how did you accurately measure the radius while it was still in the lathe?
    It always takes me several tries to cut it right.

    Thanks in advance..

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    I know you're a stickler for accuracy, Tom, but I do agree with Manfred that the radiused washer serves no purpose. In looking at 5 untampered HX carbs, I see no wear from the washer in the barrel; but I do see worn out washers and glaring air gaps. Why the washers are worn out, and the barrels are good is a puzzler.
    Eric Smith
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    Good grief Eric!

    If it isn't obvious to you that the 'friction' washer prevents the shaft and disc from eating its way upward, you just haven't had many in your hands.
    I have even encountered where they have worn their own 'dome' into the bore (attached).

    Folks can cobble their own any way they want.
    But I have responsibility not only to my customers, but to the next generation.

    ....Cotten
    PS: It should provide "friction" in name only. If it rubs with resistance, its wrong.
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    I just see the washer in your picture, and it looks like someone soldered it in. I've examined more than a few, Tom; but I know you'll do what you want, and that's what make the world interesting
    Eric Smith
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