judging frustration

[D.A.Bagin]

All you would have to do is add "Documented" to the award. Game over. Probably add $2.00 to the award, if that, and get priceless informaton. But then you get into a whole situation with the "Club" not wanting you to advertise your bike, if ever for sale, having AMCA recognition to add "Value" to the bike. So, where do you go from here???? Can't have one without the other can you???? Be careful what you wish for and sign for.

[T. Cotten]

All you would have to do is add "Documented" to the award. Game over. Probably add $2.00 to the award, if that, and get priceless informaton. But then you get into a whole situation with the "Club" not wanting you to advertise your bike, if ever for sale, having AMCA recognition to add "Value" to the bike. So, where do you go from here???? Can't have one without the other can you???? Be careful what you wish for and sign for.

Good point, D.A.Bagin!

Is an AMCA award "legitimate"?

Or purely honorary?

If a little old lady from Tiskilwa rear ends you, and you must prove the value of the damage,
must an AMCA documentation be forfeit?
Or might it be your best insurance?

Any and all Members' Historical machines should be rostered.

....Cotten

[rwm]

Is an AMCA award "legitimate"?


Or might it be your best insurance?

Any and all Members' Historical machines should be rostered.

....Cotten

what if the amca document says " you have the wrong brake light."

[T. Cotten]

But Rob!

Your machine's profile will clearly show that it indeed had a tail light.
The "wrong" tail light upon a vintage machine might often be better!

If States begin requiring more than just a "tail light', then the AMCA should begin to vigilantly focus its energies upon our rights to ride our machines.

If the Judging Program cannot be legitimate, it is frivolous.

....Cotten

[TimR]

I have been a huge & constant advocate for on-line support at the Judging Field. It all started when an entrant (and Judge) backed up his machine with all the factory literature & data to prove his bike correct. He brought his own laptop, and proved some controversial items that got mistakingly dinged on the field.
RF.

If a data base of Winner Circle Bikes was available, would that information be acceptable proof of correctness or would factory literature & data be required as proof of correctness of items in question in judging. What would be the ruling if the owner said "I did it just like the Winner Circle Documented Bike was done?" With the advancement of knowledge, 3 years down the road a Winner Circle Bike might have new discrepancies surface.

[Chris Haynes]

I know of a winners circle bike that has a really bad number job on it. It is a 2nd design VL that carries an extremely early 1st design number on it. Just one example of not all winners circle bikes are correct.