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    I believe that Wagner necks were used on the early H-D frames.
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    Quote Originally Posted by c.o. View Post
    talbot-2, your input is always appreciated!!! This is what it's all about... The only problem I have is I only get the snippet view on those magazines. I'm curious to know if folks in other countries have the same trouble.

    I checked out the web-site you posted and it says the picture was taken circa 1907. Are these bikes earlier than Eric and I guessed?
    Yes, the "Arnold" photos numbered 1 and 2 were taken in 1907 at the beginning of their trip from Indianapolis to Denver, Colorado. Photo number one was taken in front of the "G & J Tire Company" factory in Indianapolis. Interesting to note, I recall seeing the front of the building when I accompanied my Grandfather on his travels to and from work during the late '40's and early '50's.
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    Alright, it looks like we were a couple years off... Cool story about riding along with the Grandparents!!!
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    Eric, are you able to pull up the "Motorcycle Illustrated" magazine issues on Google? C.O is not able to pull up the entire magazine up in Canada. I have never had a problem here in the U.S. I have downloaded all of them to my computer for easier viewing. They contain some really interesting early motorcycle information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Haynes View Post
    I believe that Wagner necks were used on the early H-D frames.
    that is not correct. the wagner frame neck had to accept three frame tubes ,unlike the harley neck, which only had two frame tubes attached to it.

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    Jerrasic,
    Have you ever looked and an early H-D frame? They all have the lug for the third frame tube on them.
    Here is what may be a 1908. It clearly shows the unused leg for the third tube.
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    thats actually a sidecar mount,and on close inspection looks completly different than the wagner neck. not even close.

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    A tapered sidecar mount? This neck was used 1905-1908. You think the boys were thinking about a sidecar when they built their first machine? In "Harley-Davidson, an Official Eighty Year History" author David Wright says that H-D first produced sidecars in 1914. There is an undated photo of a very early H-D with a wicker chair sidecar in "At the Creation", page 89.
    It may not be the same as the Wagner. But it was purchased from someone.
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