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  1. #21
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    Clydeflathead, your efforts and research regarding my sidecar are greatly appreciated. The latest attachment has me 100% convinced that you have correctly identified the hack. When I went to pick up the Powerplus, I went only knowing that it came with an old sidecar. The previous owner was under the assumption that it was a Rogers. I didn't know for sure and that is why I asked on this board. It never ceases to amaze me on how much can be learned here. Do you folks down south see such hacks showing up at meets? Later today I'll get some better photos of the wheel posted for a possible ID. I have no idea whether it really belongs to the hack or not. It was found in a seperate out building under a pile of other treasures on the farm.
    Cory Othen
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    Here's some 1919 National Stuff
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    Peter Thomson, a.k.a. Tommo
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    And 1917 and 1919 Rogers adverts
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    Peter Thomson, a.k.a. Tommo
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    Palmerston North, New Zealand.

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    Opps! The 1917 advert is the narrow one on the right
    Peter Thomson, a.k.a. Tommo
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    Palmerston North, New Zealand.

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    Thanks Tommo!!!

    Here's a shot of the footrest inside and the door latch...



    and a few of the wheel....





    Cory Othen
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    Quote Originally Posted by pisten-bully View Post
    Was this the same Ralph Rogers who bought Indian in 1945?
    Answered it for myself. Different Ralph.
    Pisten Bulley is Harry Roberts in Vermont.

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    pisten-bully, The reason I did not answer you was, I had no answer. I know very little on the Indian Motorcycles. As for Ralph Roger's sidecars, I find some of the history very interesting. National Dairy produced His sidecars, Then He produced his sidecars, before selling out to Ero Mfg. who produced the Rogers sidecars. I have included some flyers of the Rogers model M, model M1, and the model P. They also had a model H. Ero Mfg. say they made some improvements to the Rogers Model P in their flyers. It's a wonder they could keep up with who, was making what ,back in the day.

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    Clyde, Ralph B. Rogers who took over Indian from DuPont was born in 1909... so it's highly unlikely he was in the sidecar business in 1917. When I saw your research and your documents (really good stuff by the way) I wondered out loud if it was the same Ralph Rogers. He presided over the demise of Indian.
    Pisten Bulley is Harry Roberts in Vermont.

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    pisten-bully, Thank you for the quick Indian history lesson, sometimes I don't know which I enjoy more, the old motorcycles and sidecars or the history and stories behind them.

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    Cory,
    That wheel looks like a 36 hole Eclipse wheel to me and appears to be a front wheel rather than a sidecar one.
    Most sidecar wheels are threaded externally on one side to take a hubcap and have a fixed axle rather than a hollow one.
    What do the rest of you guys think?
    Peter Thomson, a.k.a. Tommo
    A.M.C.A. # 2777
    Palmerston North, New Zealand.

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