vote here

[mmoore]

we voted a shovelhead forum in here a while back (thanks) lets see how the members feel about this thread and if we should save it , change it or can it. its too bad as there is some good in it, but I feel we should can it

[Baytown]

I'm happy to keep it.
Who knows, one day there may be more people willing to use it.
Ken.

[kval]

I will repeat what I said in another post, if real names are used MAYBE some of the dirt throwing will stop. this spot is being used mostly to complain and we hardly ever hear the other side of the story. members should also post when they are happy about dealing with a vendor and post a positive message. that would be a real help to someone looking for something. neeless to say I say keep it

[Paps]

I say keep it with one exception.......A Hole customers shoud be named also. Paps

[Paquette]

This section of the forum has been good for me as I stand by my knowledge and craftsmanship. That said, if this section is to stand there is a need, as Cotten and others have stated, for a dead beat payers section a sort of " Vendors rate Customers" , but that will open a can of worms that can never be closed. I think this forum needs to be about the sharing of information, not a crap match. I really don't know because one post about happy customers will never match one post from someone that you try to please but will not tell you what the problem is. For those of us who make our products by hand, one at a time, there will always be imperfections. Hopefully, the craftsman is the only one who knows.

[Ohio-Rider]

Sure we should keep it. As Kevin said, this a great place to find out about reputable suppliers. New members need a place like this to make their own decisions about where to spend their money.

If we change the name from “Vendors Rated” to “Satisfied Customers” that might be a way to go. Life is full of negative ****. Lets try to keep it out of here.

[kval]

everybody
let me talk to the web people and see what we can come up with, maybe a second spot for satisfied customers is an answer.
also vendors, if you keep it clean why not ask nicely for someone to pay you what is owed for your product/service. we need the vendors to keep playing with our toys.
there are a lot of vendors out there that make high quality repo parts that they invest a lot of time and money to produce because they love the hobby too. you can bet they are not getting rich on this.

[George Greer]

I don't have a problem with using my real name...

I don't mine keeping bitch forum threads going, but it IS a two way street...

I DO recomend..

Tom Cotten (Liberty).....Kurt and Wendy Riffe (45 Parts Depot-Holland). JW Boon & Rene (Holland). Mr Baker, at NOS Parts Ohio


Only ONE complaint....Tech support at J&P Cycles.

Don't bitch at me when I call you and ask for support and you give me incorrect information to begin with...........THEN be even more of a smart mouth when I call you back about it.

George Greer
Markt Einersheim Germany

[rousseau]

Hello all

As I have been watching this thread I recall a while back we had some very similar post. I especially recall Cotton wanting to "rate " his customers. I replied back then that I thought this was a bad idea and I still feel this way. Some members felt it would simply turn into a "feedback" forum like ebay. The best analogy was that it would become a "cyber based shouting match".
What is happening this time is the classic "one person is going to ruin it for everybody".
Dennis Rousseau
Knoxville TN.
AMCA#11302

[T. Cotten]

Just for clarity,
I did not suggest "rating" customers.
I suggested a "Stiffs List" so that other vendors could assess their risk, notify errant customers who may simply have forgotten, and add some balance to this fragile new system.

As it stands now, customers are sacred cows, while vendors are fair game.

If the mission of the AMCA is to foster vintage motorcycling, it will occasionally want to administer a little medicine. But too much too soon is poison.

No such forum catagory would work without a lot of editing, moderating, and responsibility of all parties involved.
This brave new cyberworld just isn't mature enough for that.

....Cotten