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mdunn
10-23-2009, 11:32 PM
Does anyone have a picture of a correct 1939 rear speedo drive for a 39 Sport Scout. Not a Chief, they are different and not a 1940 Sport Scout, they are also different. A 1939 or a picture of what the 38-39 used which I am assuming are maybe the same used on the 1930's 101's?

Mike

Scott Parker
10-24-2009, 01:05 AM
Here you go. http://www.vintagebikeoc.com/gallery/jul08/ADSC_1665

mdunn
10-27-2009, 01:07 PM
Here you go. http://www.vintagebikeoc.com/gallery/jul08/ADSC_1665

Scott,

Yes thats JD's scout. I had that picture on my hard drive and didnt even think about it. I found myself the correct speedo unit for my 1939 Sport Scout, I am happy now.

Mike

Scott Parker
10-27-2009, 01:30 PM
Mike, Glad you found what you needed for the speedo. I sure love that guy Jd's bike, does he live in So. Cal. ? I also have a '39 SS that I was lucky enough to hold onto after my Grandpa passed away. I would like to know from JD if he rerouted his oil breather away from the rear chain, if not how does he keep his chrome exhaust below the chain looking so clean ? Here is a picture of my Grandpa ( Lysle Parker) restoring the '39, he was 87 years old at the time. My '39 has alot of different year parts on it but I love it just the way it is ! Please post pictures as your scout is coming together. Good luck, Scott http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o407/39sportscout/grandpaandindian.jpg

mdunn
10-28-2009, 06:00 PM
Mike, Glad you found what you needed for the speedo. I sure love that guy Jd's bike, does he live in So. Cal. ? I also have a '39 SS that I was lucky enough to hold onto after my Grandpa passed away. I would like to know from JD if he rerouted his oil breather away from the rear chain, if not how does he keep his chrome exhaust below the chain looking so clean ? Here is a picture of my Grandpa ( Lysle Parker) restoring the '39, he was 87 years old at the time. My '39 has alot of different year parts on it but I love it just the way it is ! Please post pictures as your scout is coming together. Good luck, Scott http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o407/39sportscout/grandpaandindian.jpg

Scott,

JD had his bike restored by some guys in Northern CA, I forgot who. Basically he just waited for a finished product. I myself am restoring my bike from the start. Here it is at the begining and middle and than now.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2264/3531526691_e039d057f3_o.jpg

Than the middle
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3623/3627318028_83487bc96a.jpg

And as it sits today. Some things are not in place, like the shifter bit its getting closer.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2466/4042946198_80e73ee6bd.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2534/4042203535_a22c9240c2.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2494/4042202773_8bed586cbb.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2800/4042204455_b21a552283.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3520/4006796423_5355c91390.jpg

Scott Parker
10-28-2009, 07:44 PM
Mike, Beautiful bike and nice work your doing too ! Is yours a bonneville ? What tires do you have on it now ? My coker diamond treads seem to wander a bit at higher speeds and I wondered if I should have used something else. Scott

mdunn
10-28-2009, 08:15 PM
Scott,

Thank you and wait untill you see it finished. I have replaced alot of parts with correct 1939 parts, most reproduction but I dont care. I really want it too look as correct as possible and run just as good (60+). I will upload some motor pics friday night. Everytime I am working on the motor I forget to take some. The motor is not a Bonneville, but It will have a nice large Chief flywheel and stroker pistons when finished. Its getting closer, heads are done and other motor parts.

Greg H
10-29-2009, 11:21 AM
Thanks for sharing these photos, great bikes:)
Mike, the dealer transfer on rear fender nice touch who produces those?

mdunn
10-29-2009, 05:06 PM
Thanks for sharing these photos, great bikes:)
Mike, the dealer transfer on rear fender nice touch who produces those?

Some guy on ebay makes them and I got one because I knew it would work. The guys ebay name is Zagar-axe

http://myworld.ebay.com/ebaymotors/zagar-axe/

They were like $9, not bad. Mine almost came out perfect but the clear coat began to eat it a tiny bit. Oh well adds chracter.

mdunn
10-29-2009, 05:08 PM
Mike, Beautiful bike and nice work your doing too ! Is yours a bonneville ? What tires do you have on it now ? My coker diamond treads seem to wander a bit at higher speeds and I wondered if I should have used something else. Scott

Scott,

I am sorry I am using Coker Firestone tires on my bike.

Mike

Tom Lovejoy
10-30-2009, 12:13 AM
way to go guy's - awesome Sport Scout's ! Really sharp, I know JD's Sport Scout also - first class, you dont get better I think. He is in So Cal, the bike was his Dad's.
Scott, I have run the Coker diamond treads. Same thing as you, then I tried Universal's - ok, then Metzeler's and also Cheng shin's. So far the ones I and a few friends have liked the best. The Cheng shin's beleive it or not, the Metzeler's were good too. But for the price and ride and wear, the Cheng Shin's have given us good result's - just our experience.
Look forward to seeing and hearing your Sport Scout out on the road sometime Mike. Going to be an awesome machine !

mdunn
10-30-2009, 12:31 AM
Tom,

I have rode with you in the past, I had my 36 BMW R12 at the time. I finally decided I wanted an American bike and I wanted an Indian. After looking at pictures and the fenders I knew it was a 1939 or a 38 I had to have. The 39 was the last year of the shallow fenders and it had the instrument cluster surrounded by the chrome guage cover. The 1939, was the Worlds fair and it just in my mind the best looking Indians ever produced. Anyway, I have learned well and alot how the 1939 is a one off year in many ways.

Scott, I purchased one of the one way oil breather kits from Jerry Greers and it made a HUGE difference with hardly any oil all over my rims and pipes. It was expensive and you have to remove the oil pump but it was worth it.







way to go guy's - awesome Sport Scout's ! Really sharp, I know JD's Sport Scout also - first class, you dont get better I think. He is in So Cal, the bike was his Dad's.
Scott, I have run the Coker diamond treads. Same thing as you, then I tried Universal's - ok, then Metzeler's and also Cheng shin's. So far the ones I and a few friends have liked the best. The Cheng shin's beleive it or not, the Metzeler's were good too. But for the price and ride and wear, the Cheng Shin's have given us good result's - just our experience.
Look forward to seeing and hearing your Sport Scout out on the road sometime Mike. Going to be an awesome machine !

Scott Parker
10-30-2009, 03:31 PM
Tom, Thanks for the rundown. I've tried putting more air in the tires and it seemed to help a bit on the wobble but made any bumps real bouncy. When I first got the bike it had original Goodyear All Weather diamond treads, they look geat but they are pretty hard and I thought I was going to dump it a few times going through some corners until I switched tires.The lower end of my motor was done by my Grandpas good friend Ken Edmiston and it does like to GO, I just wish my tires could keep up...probably shouldn't ride that fast anyways. http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o407/39sportscout/DSC01227e.jpg Mike, I didn't see the breather kit on jerry greers site but I'll check into that... thanks. I used to have a check ball down at the scavenger that the ball got stuck in the middle of the spring. The oil would return at idle but at higher rpm it would wet sump bad and blow oil all over the chain and exhaust etc. I pulled the pump thinking it was the gears but that didn't help. After wet sumping some more I found the problem with the check ball... what a mess I had. It' much better now but still throws a bit of oil off the chain onto the hot exhaust. Hopefully this winter all the bugs can be worked out and I can meet you guys on a run next summer...maybe the Fort Sutter run in Tahoe in September. Here is how it looks today. Scott
way to go guy's - awesome Sport Scout's ! Really sharp, I know JD's Sport Scout also - first class, you dont get better I think. He is in So Cal, the bike was his Dad's.
Scott, I have run the Coker diamond treads. Same thing as you, then I tried Universal's - ok, then Metzeler's and also Cheng shin's. So far the ones I and a few friends have liked the best. The Cheng shin's beleive it or not, the Metzeler's were good too. But for the price and ride and wear, the Cheng Shin's have given us good result's - just our experience.
Look forward to seeing and hearing your Sport Scout out on the road sometime Mike. Going to be an awesome machine !

Tom Lovejoy
10-31-2009, 09:22 PM
Scott, I know what you mean. I have done the same, gone into a couple turns to fast for my own good. First time I got on the freeway, scared me to death - was bouncing so bad. I run 18lbs front and 15lbs back. Lee Standley told me that one, your lucky Ken did your motor. I bet it does want to run, they are great machines.
Mike I remember well, also one time you were on a 2 stroke if I remember right? I just ment, I look forward to seeing you on that Sport Scout, that"s all.
It would be awesome to get together and though my Scout's running great. Family issue's keep me from riding any of my toys right now. This forum and a few others are my escape :-) thanks for that !!

mdunn
11-01-2009, 11:21 PM
Scott, I know what you mean. I have done the same, gone into a couple turns to fast for my own good. First time I got on the freeway, scared me to death - was bouncing so bad. I run 18lbs front and 15lbs back. Lee Standley told me that one, your lucky Ken did your motor. I bet it does want to run, they are great machines.
Mike I remember well, also one time you were on a 2 stroke if I remember right? I just ment, I look forward to seeing you on that Sport Scout, that"s all.
It would be awesome to get together and though my Scout's running great. Family issue's keep me from riding any of my toys right now. This forum and a few others are my escape :-) thanks for that !!

Tom,

I live out next to Hemet now and when this is finished, I will want to go for a ride. I myself love to ride my bikes, I feel its the best thing is to let other people see them in person.
Scott, call Todd at Jerry Greers, he has those breather kits, they are not on his site. Made a huge difference with alot less oil all over the chain and rear wheel. I added new pics tonight on my flickr page. The managed to get a few more things done.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2513/4066948428_e5c0a8bb20.jpg
New rear tail light and armor covered wire. I also placed on the rear stand.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2776/4066201661_e13f0c4880.jpg
I added a new rear brake light switch.


Mike

Greg H
11-05-2009, 11:31 AM
Thanks Mike for the heads-up on zagar, you have PM

mdunn
12-01-2009, 12:31 PM
Here is a bit more of the bike, its almost finished.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2746/4109744057_d148318e10.jpg

The horn is now mounted and ready to beep :)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2682/4110508410_bf75d8d953.jpg
Back side of the horn.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2544/4110508660_2def92ab99.jpg

The electrical board, it was original on a 1939.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2539/4110509206_48e7018584.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2780/4066193769_da65f5b202.jpg
The transmission rebuilt 100%. New bushings, etc.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2680/4066940918_3a9f1a9378.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2794/4066196137_7ff3b2c2a2.jpg
Heads redone with a nice wrinkel finish on them.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2540/4066944306_ef2c3bc72f.jpg
Oil pump rebuilt and tested on the only oil pump that puts a true load on the pump.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2650/4066195395_5a22b15226.jpg

More to come.....

exeric
12-01-2009, 05:50 PM
Scott and Mike, your bikes are gorgeous. It's so nice to see Indians on this Knucklehead site. Mike, what is the name of that green and where can you get it? I have been thinking of changing the color of my '40 Chief and maybe doing a two-tone color combo like your Scout. Not the Worlds Fair config. but using the color contrast. Again, beautiful bikes.

mdunn
12-02-2009, 08:04 PM
Eric,

The guy who painted my bike is a local painter here in Corona CA and he works for a paint company, so he knows his paints well. His name is Ed Aguilar, email him and ask him.

crwntowncustom1@yahoo.com

He is a Incredible painter....

mdunn
12-27-2009, 11:54 PM
Its getting closer guys.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4020/4221313378_730aedb42f_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4062/4220553481_e3892efff2_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2681/4221315074_e53657779e_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2564/4220551669_86027fc367_b.jpg

mdunn
02-08-2010, 12:36 AM
Well the motor is almost finished. I am about 2 days away from finishing it.I have pictures of it assembled with no heads and they will be posted as well.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4033/4318481549_f93b01a2a6_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2758/4319216238_00236e6aab_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4019/4318484003_524b732d1e_b.jpg

More pictures too come tomorrow night. I have added Honda XL 250 pistons, Bonneville Cams, 47" Chief Flywheels. This motor is now around 900cc's.

mdunn
02-20-2010, 09:52 AM
Here is the bike on the lift a few days ago, getting closer. I am hoping to start the bike today.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4059/4367332960_edaf258b20_b.jpg

koanes
02-20-2010, 02:12 PM
Beautiful! I just took a rode trip with my brother and he was grinding on me to get my 39 Injun on the lift to repair the raggedy trans that is keeping it from being a dependable rider. Thanks for the inspiration Mike.

Scott Parker
02-20-2010, 05:10 PM
Lookin Great Mike ! I hope it all goes as planned for you. After pickin up my bike from my mechanic buddy today I saw your post I was inspired to go for a ride. He fixed alot of stuff and only charged me for materials....there is still some great guys around in this hobby. Looking forward to seeing how it goes for you as you get it rollin. Scott

Scott Parker
02-20-2010, 05:12 PM
Lookin Great Mike ! I hope it all goes as planned for you. After pickin up my bike from my mechanic buddy today I saw your post and was inspired to go for a ride. He fixed alot of stuff and only charged me for materials....there is still some great guys around in this hobby. Looking forward to seeing how it goes for you as you get it rollin. Scott

mdunn
02-20-2010, 09:37 PM
Beautiful! I just took a rode trip with my brother and he was grinding on me to get my 39 Injun on the lift to repair the raggedy trans that is keeping it from being a dependable rider. Thanks for the inspiration Mike.

Kyle thank you!

MIke

mdunn
02-20-2010, 09:39 PM
Lookin Great Mike ! I hope it all goes as planned for you. After pickin up my bike from my mechanic buddy today I saw your post and was inspired to go for a ride. He fixed alot of stuff and only charged me for materials....there is still some great guys around in this hobby. Looking forward to seeing how it goes for you as you get it rollin. Scott

Scott,

Today I was inches from starting the bike only to find out the battery was dead and I ran out of time as i had to leave and go pick up kids and do things around the house. So, maybe tomorrow morning if all goes well. I am still waiting for my chain guard to be painted and I have to still place the crash bars on the bike. The last thing to add is my rear speedo drive and cable. Almost finished, very close. Than I can nit pick certain things on it but its damm close ready to ride.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2692/4374683456_7dabf03cc2_b.jpg

kval
02-20-2010, 10:39 PM
Scott,

Today I was inches from starting the bike only to find out the battery was dead and I ran out of time as i had to leave and go pick up kids and do things around the house. So, maybe tomorrow morning if all goes well. I am still waiting for my chain guard to be painted and I have to still place the crash bars on the bike. The last thing to add is my rear speedo drive and cable. Almost finished, very close. Than I can nit pick certain things on it but its damm close ready to ride.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2692/4374683456_7dabf03cc2_b.jpg

Mike
you do realize that I will have to inspect that bike, to make sure it meets AMCA judging standards. should not take too long, only 2 or 3 years:rolleyes:

mdunn
02-21-2010, 11:54 PM
The bike now runs, I started it today. I havent made any adjustments at all so I havent ridden the bike but I will tomorrow. So far its running very well and pumping oil good.

Mike

mdunn
03-05-2010, 10:46 PM
I road the Scout today for the First time about 6 miles, all went well. I have a few small adjustments too make. The rear hinge on the fender broke, so I will be sending an email to the Company i got it from and hopefully the manufacture will correct this? Anyway, here she is minus the speedo cable, speedo drive, chain guard and crash bars. Its getting much closer.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2704/4410119992_cd4bd961c8_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2791/4410120174_b07981e6f2_b.jpg

Tom Lovejoy
03-06-2010, 12:08 AM
Right on Mike!, I have been waiting to hear you had the Scout out. Was wondering how it went? surprised and shocked to hear the hinge broke, hope it did not mess up the beautiful paint. That's an awesome Sport Scout. I hope as you do, that it runs as good as it looks. Best of luck with it.

mdunn
03-06-2010, 10:40 AM
Right on Mike!, I have been waiting to hear you had the Scout out. Was wondering how it went? surprised and shocked to hear the hinge broke, hope it did not mess up the beautiful paint. That's an awesome Sport Scout. I hope as you do, that it runs as good as it looks. Best of luck with it.

Tom,

It broke on the hinge, unreal as it was all mounted and happen while I was driving down the road last night. This rear fender came from Jerry Greers who inturn got it from Matt Blake at Iron Horse. So, I am going to take pics today and than show Matt and Todd both. It my honest opinion its unexceptable at $400 for a fender. The upper fender was scratched a tiny bit.

MIke

mdunn
03-08-2010, 04:31 PM
I want too say thank you Matt Blake for calling me personally on the phone today and helping me getting the problem resloved. Your call and appreciation over the phone just went a ton of miles with me, first class.