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bmh
08-26-2009, 06:14 PM
Hi all, anyone have a parts book published for the 49 model year that would be willing to look up a few things for me? Looking for part numbers for original 49 hydraglide fork damper parts. Thanks.
Rub
08-26-2009, 07:07 PM
Brian,
I have one, what do you need?
Robbie
jmanjeff
08-26-2009, 07:44 PM
what parts do you need
sorry it was out of HD parts book 1941 - 84
Rub
08-26-2009, 07:55 PM
Brian,
See your PM.
Robbie
Chris Haynes
08-26-2009, 11:29 PM
That illustration is not correct for a 1949. 1949 below.
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp209/hd36knuck/1949Hydra-glide.jpg
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp209/hd36knuck/1949Hydra-glide001.jpg
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp209/hd36knuck/1949Hydra-glide002.jpg
bmh
08-27-2009, 06:43 PM
Thanks Chris, was hoping for the forks listing prior to the change in the damper tubes. That diagram still shows more parts than the front end I have. Though it does list the heavy duty sidecar only springs. Here are some pics of it laid out parts book style. As you see the entire damper valve is only three pieces.


http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt220/brianhoward/100_2038.jpg

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt220/brianhoward/100_2039.jpg

I know someone thinks it's missing parts but it is not. Look at the springs and how they are part of the valve body.

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt220/brianhoward/100_2028.jpg

This side is pretty nice.... other side will need a little love.
Chris Haynes
08-27-2009, 07:41 PM
That is from the May 1, 1949 parts book. It is the only illustration that I know of. There is no earlier 1949 parts book that I know of. Obviously the book wasn't printed until after the change was made.
bmh
08-28-2009, 06:34 PM
Looks like another mystery goes unsolved. Guess this fork must be really early 49. would imagine they would have a -48 part number. Any one happen to know if May of 49 was the first parts book printing for the model year? According to Shop Dope 291 I see that vented fork caps were introduced in mid May. both the diagram Chris posted and the one Robbie sent me show the early caps. But I'm guessin that if the parts in question are not in the books, probably weren't many shipped out on parts order either. Guess we'll be looking close at refurbishing. I know I can pop in the newer units, but I hate to do that to something this unique. Thanks all.
panz4ever
08-29-2009, 03:59 PM
Page from another parts book for information...

And, I only see one spring there should be two. There should be a couple of paper gaskets that go in the bottom of each tube plus around the stem a swell. You would only need shims if your valve stem end protruded beyond the bottom too far.

As far as the upper end, the spare parts manual (where the scan came from) for 41-54 show the baffles used as part of the complete assembly (45775-49). My 49 has the upper end parts shown on the left side of the scan (45729-49)
bmh
08-30-2009, 06:16 AM
Page from another parts book for information...

And, I only see one spring there should be two. There should be a couple of paper gaskets that go in the bottom of each tube plus around the stem a swell. You would only need shims if your valve stem end protruded beyond the bottom too far.

As far as the upper end, the spare parts manual (where the scan came from) for 41-54 show the baffles used as part of the complete assembly (45775-49). My 49 has the upper end parts shown on the left side of the scan (45729-49)

There were paper gaskets in this assembly, they are still stuck on the appropriate parts and can't be seen in my pics. As shown springs are staked into the damper valve itself and are apparently non-replaceable. They are only on one side so it would reason that the second spring was another update. What do your dampers look like? The springs on the one side of mine are a bit mangled and that's the part I am looking to refurbish. I'll have a good look at these this winter. The 45729-49 cap you refer to is an update to improve ride quality and stop oil from puking out the seals. It was a retrofit for non-vented 49 models and serves the same purpose as the baffled system though it is still prone to pushing some oil, that's what the baffles prevent. This fork was updated with vented caps also, it's just missing the domed chrome caps.
Jerry Wieland
09-01-2009, 06:35 AM
Brian I have an original factory blue print of the hydra-glide front dated I believe 8-48 and inside it is a smaller update dated 5-49 if that would help.

Jerry
bmh
09-01-2009, 06:17 PM
Brian I have an original factory blue print of the hydra-glide front dated I believe 8-48 and inside it is a smaller update dated 5-49 if that would help.

Jerry

It might, does it show the same damper valve as in the parts book diagram Chris posted earlier? Or does it show something with less than six pieces?
Rub
09-01-2009, 06:44 PM
Brian.
I had looked at my blueprint as well but it is a copy and the detail was too poor to bother with. Hopefully Jerry's is good. I will look in my damper bits box. At one time i had a '49 front end in pieces. I sold the sliders long ago but may have some internal parts. I also have an NOS pair of early non-vented caps if you need them.
Robbie
bmh
09-03-2009, 06:50 PM
Thanks Robbie, do you think you have any of the damper parts that I have pictured? May need one of the center parts with the whisker type springs staked in. Will probably keep the vented caps that I have. won't really know till I can get a chance to take it all apart and give a good clean and inspect.
Chris Haynes
09-03-2009, 06:54 PM
[QUOTE=bmh;83983]Thanks Chris, was hoping for the forks listing prior to the change in the damper tubes. That diagram still shows more parts than the front end I have. Though it does list the heavy duty sidecar only springs. Here are some pics of it laid out parts book style. As you see the entire damper valve is only three pieces.


Could it be someone had it apart and parts didn't make it back in?
bmh
09-04-2009, 07:00 PM
Could it be someone had it apart and parts didn't make it back in?

No, these parts are way different than anything I've seen. As they don't list part numbers for even the usual pieces individually makes this harder. It appears that the lower valve, the center valve body and the upper spring were all made as one part rather than three as what we are used to. The spring itself is actually four individual pieces of spring wire staked into the valve/body. the other spring isn't necessary because the parts it is supposed to work against are all part of one part. If that makes sense. This fork also has the springs listed in your parts book as sidecar use or on a shop dope as simply heavy duty.